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Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« on: September 17, 2022, 08:47:34 am »
I'm curious to know from people who have been in physical fights with Koreans how far you can take it without being charged with assault.

For example, if you smack someone across the head, but there's no physical proof because there's no blood, can you still be charged with assault?

I've seen Koreans grab each other by the collar and shove each other, but they don't seem to get charged with assault.

So there has to be a legal line somewhere.


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2022, 09:09:54 am »
For example, if you smack someone across the head, but there's no physical proof because there's no blood, can you still be charged with assault?

CCTV everywhere is recorded proof of what happened.


Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2022, 09:54:14 am »
What if there's no CCTV?


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2022, 10:13:21 am »
In Korea, loads of CCTV. Odds are some tape can be found.


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2022, 11:02:39 am »
For example, if you smack someone across the head, but there's no physical proof because there's no blood, can you still be charged with assault?
1. Drawing blood is by no means a necessary (though maybe sufficient) standard in determining whether someone has been assaulted.
2. The answer to the question could be yes, if the "smack" was a cause of injury of any sort; or the appearance of a probability of such (e.g., an indicator could be closed knuckle fisted vs. open handed).
3. Are there reliable witnesses? Or video evidence?
4. Exigential circumstances still apply: Who started the physical altercation?

As a newspaper reporter i for years had to sit through court decisions in which ANY contact to the head was scrutinized. After years of examples, I have come to the thought that a guy could swing with all his might and strike a guy's arm and it matters not in a court of law unless there's evidence of broken bones, but any contact to the face or thereabouts is red flagging likely assault convictions (to wit, you gotta prove otherwise, it seems often).
« Last Edit: September 17, 2022, 11:14:16 am by VanIslander »
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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2022, 11:47:44 am »
1. Drawing blood is by no means a necessary (though maybe sufficient) standard in determining whether someone has been assaulted.
2. The answer to the question could be yes, if the "smack" was a cause of injury of any sort; or the appearance of a probability of such (e.g., an indicator could be closed knuckle fisted vs. open handed).
3. Are there reliable witnesses? Or video evidence?
4. Exigential circumstances still apply: Who started the physical altercation?

As a newspaper reporter i for years had to sit through court decisions in which ANY contact to the head was scrutinized. After years of examples, I have come to the thought that a guy could swing with all his might and strike a guy's arm and it matters not in a court of law unless there's evidence of broken bones, but any contact to the face or thereabouts is red flagging likely assault convictions (to wit, you gotta prove otherwise, it seems often).

Considering the number of times you have mentioned being a newspaper reporter, perhaps you should presume the audience already knows?




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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2022, 12:13:48 pm »
...Van Islander waiting on folks to show affirmation to his over-done, over-told inferences about being a newspaper reporter...



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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2022, 08:58:33 pm »
Orca consume the great white dummy sharks in the ocean.

Dolphins dance wildly and happily with people and their dogs in the sea (google it).

Polar bears await seals to breathe at holes; as posters await their prey.

It is the way of the wild.

In a digital world, the impact is limited, though at times significant. (E.g., cancel culture couldn't survive w/o it).
« Last Edit: September 17, 2022, 09:00:16 pm by VanIslander »
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2022, 09:26:25 pm »
A kid at my old school rode a bike into a car at an intersection when the light was red. He had a literal inch road burn and was awarded $600 dollars even though he ran into a car that was in the right.

The threshold in Korea for getting sued is low! So any physical touching is more than enough
« Last Edit: September 17, 2022, 09:28:04 pm by KimDuHan »


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2022, 09:30:10 pm »
Orca consume the great white dummy sharks in the ocean.

Dolphins dance wildly and happily with people and their dogs in the sea (google it).

Polar bears await seals to breathe at holes; as posters await their prey.

It is the way of the wild.

In a digital world, the impact is limited, though at times significant. (E.g., cancel culture couldn't survive w/o it).

You are neither an orca, dolphin or polar bear.  Stick within the realms of reality.


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2022, 09:33:55 pm »
How often can you miss the point?

(I know, know... you are purposefully taking the piss.)

So be it.

Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2022, 09:37:46 pm »
How often can you miss the point?

(I know, know... you are purposefully taking the piss.)

So be it.

How often can you simply ramble on?  How many more times are we (from you, a moderator, whose presence on the board should minimal) going to read about you being some newspaper salesman, or how long you have lived in Korea,  or how you never get up before noon? 

People already know.


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2022, 12:58:09 pm »
Ask CO2! He (apparently) "beat the snot" out of some old man and by all accounts got away with it scot free.  So he beat someone up and none of the other Koreans in the vicinity called the police.  Seems legit.

Elsewhere on r/thathappened Waygook, we have another poster who (apparently) just shoulder barges innocent Koreans who dare not get out of her way.

So the answer to op's question is...a lot!



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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2022, 03:22:13 pm »
Don't "get away" with violence.

Just don't hit anyone.
Is that so hard?

If so, jail may be apt.

(The last time i hit someone was in high school: he kidney punched me one too many times in 2-on-2 basketball. I told him to stop it and the next will be his last, but he continued and so i haymakered him to the nurse's office; my best bud & I never played against him again that year, or the next graduating year (he was on my hockey team back in elementary school, was on my soccer team two years).


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2022, 10:29:24 am »

More of the deathly boring.  You have no business being a moderator.  This forum is not about your repetitive, insecure stories (you know that is true).

I am absolutely convinced that VanIslander is a bot. Literally every single thing they post gives my an intense uncanny valley feeling. Reading his posts are like watching Mark Zuckerberg drink water. No human writes like that, so unnatural and stilted. One of the hardest things to get right with a chat AI is getting them to stay on topic and keep things relevant to the conversation.

VanIslander just doesn't pass the Turing test.
Does your wife submit to you?


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2022, 11:00:11 am »
He's been around since long before bots were prominent online though.

Do you think the real vanny is moldering in his goshiwon while cats eat his face, and for some inexplicable reason someone has made a GPT-2 bot hijack his account? (too repetitive for a GPT-3)


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2022, 11:12:29 am »
Orca consume the great white dummy sharks in the ocean.

Dolphins dance wildly and happily with people and their dogs in the sea (google it).

Polar bears await seals to breathe at holes; as posters await their prey.

It is the way of the wild.

In a digital world, the impact is limited, though at times significant. (E.g., cancel culture couldn't survive w/o it).

??


Ask CO2! He (apparently) "beat the snot" out of some old man and by all accounts got away with it scot free.  So he beat someone up and none of the other Koreans in the vicinity called the police.  Seems legit.

Elsewhere on r/thathappened Waygook, we have another poster who (apparently) just shoulder barges innocent Koreans who dare not get out of her way.

So the answer to op's question is...a lot!

shoulder barging is probably pretty realistic, by the time they even think about a lawsuit youre already halfway down the block
also if youre gonna recommend asking CO2 at least link the guy his reddit account or something
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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2022, 01:06:54 am »
I am absolutely convinced that VanIslander is a bot. Literally every single thing they post gives my an intense uncanny valley feeling. Reading his posts are like watching Mark Zuckerberg drink water. No human writes like that, so unnatural and stilted. One of the hardest things to get right with a chat AI is getting them to stay on topic and keep things relevant to the conversation.

VanIslander just doesn't pass the Turing test.

I have a feeling V.I. would actually be swell chap to have some beers and Korean BBQ with.  I"m sure he has a wealth of knowledge and experiences to share and pass on.  However....the shaggy dog stories, the repetitive reminders of various points in his life, his subjective approval of certain posts and minions, simply do not qualify him to be a moderator. 

If there were to be a moderator civil war, I'd be on Kyndo's side. 


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Re: Physical violence in Korea - How much can you get away with?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2022, 01:30:01 am »
If there were to be a moderator civil war, I'd be on Kyndo's side. 
So would I. ;)
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.