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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #120 on: October 08, 2012, 11:46:20 AM »
Has anyone tried Mean Girls? I have an English Club group that has 13 girls and 1 boy, and I think they might like it. However, the Koreans and the male coach in the movie aren't portrayed in a very good light. As an overweight white male, I'm a little concerned how that might go over...

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #121 on: November 26, 2012, 06:01:20 PM »
Fantastic 4 was the biggest hit I've had so far. Lots of action and funny moments. They loved the characters. Very appropriate for middle school or high school.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2012, 08:49:49 AM »
Has anyone tried showing "Balls of Fury" to the students?
I can only imagine them absolutely loving this movie but I haven't had time to show it yet. What do you think?

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2012, 08:55:11 AM »
Its my end of semester class next week and I wanted the students to watch something but the lesson is only 50 minutes long. I feel like a bit of a cheat just showing them 50 minutes of a film - I would find that frustrating if it were me and I was enjoying it, to only see half of a film.

So being British I had decided on playing Wallace and Gromit a close shave as its 30 minutes long and has time for discussion afterwards. I teach grade 1 at an all girls high school.

Has anyone tried Wallace and Gromit and if so what was the reaction? Im concerned my students wont get it or will find it boring/too young.

Any suggestions for something to fit in a 50 minute class would be great please!

If not then I'll give it a whirl on Monday and let you all know how it goes.

I feel the same way...I am also thinking of showing a 2o to 30 mins show and having time for discussion, the thing is it's end of semester and I can barely get them to play games, I am not so sure I can get them to discuss for 20 to 30 mins
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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2012, 09:11:38 AM »
Grab an episode of a TV show that you like.  With commercials removed it'll probably fill 40+ minutes of class if it is usually an hour-long show.  20-25 minutes if its usually a half-hour show.  You can kill some time at the beginning of class explaining about characters and premise and any vocab that they need to know, then show the episode, then discuss.
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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #125 on: November 27, 2012, 09:13:58 AM »
WALL-E.

If they don't like it, then they're wrong, because it's the greatest film of all time.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #126 on: November 27, 2012, 09:56:29 AM »
I totally agree with you. Wall-E is the best movie to show.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #127 on: November 27, 2012, 10:03:02 AM »
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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #128 on: November 27, 2012, 10:34:27 AM »
This year I am planning to show Despicable Me to first graders and then Stardust to second graders.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #129 on: December 14, 2012, 03:18:22 PM »
I just finished showing x-men First Class at my all boys high school. There are some girls in their underwear in some scenes, but the movie is rated PG-13, so I risked it. They loved it and so far no complaints from co-teachers. I suspect they show stuff way more risque.

I also showed the Hunger Games to some of my classes, which was met with equal excitement but has a better portrayal of women in my opinion. In gender segregated schools like this one where the guys don't get a lot of of social education around gender I think its important to keep these kinds of things in mind. Young and impressionable and all that.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #130 on: December 17, 2012, 09:42:53 AM »
This year I am planning to show Despicable Me to first graders and then Stardust to second graders.

So far both of these movies are going very well!

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #131 on: December 17, 2012, 11:24:48 AM »
i work at an all girls middle (4 yrs and runnin)

their fav movies in the past have been:

elf - great for holiday time
she's the man
legally blonde
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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #132 on: February 06, 2013, 11:37:14 AM »
Why is it that any topic, theme or film that includes male homosexuality is always considered a 'hit', but female homosexuality is never mentioned??

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #133 on: February 18, 2013, 10:09:01 PM »
I think it's a good movie and I love it. My students - high school student - loved it, too.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #134 on: April 22, 2013, 11:29:41 AM »
I also was thinking about showing Mean Girls... anyone shown this? Should I/ shouldn't I? Eh?

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #135 on: April 22, 2013, 12:14:17 PM »
  The best movie" NO movie". This is just another one of those things people use in the Education office to phase out for  English conversation classes with Native speakers

If you really have to show a movie make them read English subtitles. If they can't understand the subtitles in English they need to be studying more converstation based lessons.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #136 on: April 24, 2013, 01:43:24 PM »
Has anyone tried Mean Girls? I have an English Club group that has 13 girls and 1 boy, and I think they might like it. However, the Koreans and the male coach in the movie aren't portrayed in a very good light. As an overweight white male, I'm a little concerned how that might go over...

You mean the Vietnamese?

"Mean Girls" went over well with my English Club. It depends on your co-teacher, really

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #137 on: April 24, 2013, 10:47:15 PM »
I have to second Fishead's sentiments, and will even raise them one: Showing an English language movie with Korean subtitles is deleterious to their advancement in English.  Here they are, all prepped to associate narrative tension, emotional valence, visual and audio cues, and social context with vocabulary and syntax and WHAMM0 - their attention gets ripped away to fixate on Hangeul. So the Ss "learn" to disassociate and focus only on Korean.

The opposite, of course, is also true: If the Ss are immersed in the visual and audio clues and can catch up with enough of the narrative flow to suspend disbelief, all sorts of learning takes place, and the English subtitles there on the bottom (you can adjust the setting with JetAudio and make them bigger) reinforce the associations. The younger the better. Dumbo, Tarzan, and Rio, for example. The Hannah Montana movie crosses over well for the tweens, and though the HS students will usually use the promise of an English only movie to showcase their Hard-assed Han ennui,  you might be able to hook them with something like The Avengers movie, Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, and the Vampire's Assistant. TV shows like Smallville, The Carrie Diaries, Once Upon a Time and Teen Wolf can also be great -- the narrative hook there is more sustaining once set -- but could also be deemed a bit racy. The philosophy there is similar to that which underpins extensive reading. It's important not only that the teacher watch too, but watch actively, and that absolutely no talking between the students (trying to use the occasion for social hierarchy jockeying) be permitted.
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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #138 on: April 25, 2013, 07:36:58 AM »
While there's nothing wrong with making a movie day a continued learning experience, there's also nothing wrong with showing a movie just for the sake of having a day of relaxation. I only show movies twice during a year, and that's after finals. Students are literally drained to the point of exhaustion, so if I give them one day where I'm not shoving English down their throats, then no harm done. They have other teachers continuing to drill more important information into their heads the week after finals, so they deserve to have at least one rest period.

So the Ss "learn" to disassociate and focus only on Korean.
As for this, what are you basing this on? When watching a movie, do all your other senses shut off as soon as the subtitles come on? Granted, the students might be more hardpressed to listen and try to understand the situation, but what about the other end of the spectrum with the students who will shut off because the effort isn't worth it? I guarantee you a lot of them would be more focused on trying to understand what the characters are saying as opposed to the movie itself, which defeats the entire purpose. You could also argue that hearing the words and having the Korean words as a visual reference on the screen, tied with the "narrative tension" and "emotional valence" can have a positive effect on learning a language.

If you spend a class reviewing the vocabulary used in the movie, then I could see how English subtitles would be beneficial. In this case, you have taught them the words, reviewed it, and now they're getting a visual context in which the new language is used while it's still fresh in their minds. However, going in to a movie in English subtitles isn't going to do much more for them if they hadn't studied the words before hand.

I studied French all throughout middle and high school and even at the peak of my ability, although I would have been able to understand some parts of a French movie with French subtitles, I would not have understood a lot and would have missed many subtle nuances in the movie. I would say that about half of my top high school students might be able to follow a movie with English subtitles but the vast majority would struggle. Even my co-teachers have said that they have difficulty understanding English movies without Korean subtitles. If your students can follow along with English subtitles, great. Otherwise, the only way I see English subtitles being beneficial is if they are reinforced in a previous class.

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Re: The best movie to show in class - high school
« Reply #139 on: April 25, 2013, 09:01:41 AM »
Rowdie, it's the semiotic environment that determines the efficacy of the subtitles choice, and you're right, you can read it both ways. It is a pedagogical question, though, and within the parameters of what I would like to call the "code-switching" pedagogy, showing English language cultural products with Korean subtitles is definitely the way to go. Then you're not teaching English, per se, but showing students how to speak Korean using English noises. It's definitely a legit way to go, too, and everything about the national curriculum, the marketplace incentives for cultural products  in the respective languages, and the other market and institutional barriers to the free and easily available use of English, will point you and the students in that direction.   Go with the flow.

You mentioned French. I noticed, when I was studying French, that I could watch a French movie and kinda catch on to what was going down, and, so long as I got caught up in everything, my knowledge of the vocabulary helped me go with that flow. It all disappeared if I watched the movie with English subtitles, though. I read the subtitles, and my comprehension of the French was way reduced. Learning occurs on many levels, and on a very few levels some types of learning can occur with variant subtitles. But the meta-learning and rhythm-inducing levels, ahh, that takes parallel subtitles, or no subtitles. Then, too, I was watching the really good French sh-t, your Louis Malle and Goddard type of flic. If I was watching the kind of sh-t they show on TV over there, it might well be a different story, one that would throw me over to your camp. All that schmaltzy, entirely predictable sentimentality and cheesy macho drama would force me to yield and I'd be analyzing dem English words on da screen ta see how dey linked up wit da francaise.

It has something to do with age, attention spans, and social cues. At a certain age, children will watch anything of interest and try to puzzle out sense from what they find delightful. Movies like "Dumbo" and "Tarzan" that I mentioned in my post typify this aspect. They have a strong visual narrative that language only supplements. In a certain environment, children will take a strong interest in them, and learn the language as well.  If the Ss see the choice of which language the subtitles will be shown in as an opportunity to showcase their chauvinism, however, perhaps the battle was lost before it began. On the other hand, were "The Avengers" only available in English, they'd succumb.

As I mentioned in another post http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,6590.80.html, it's all about the EFL vs. the EIL, when it should be about the ELF (English as a Lingua Franca).
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