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carlita
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Is anyone familiar with DELTA, the diploma in English teaching, through the British Council/International House? I am thinking of taking module one and three, while here in Seoul. I am looking at it as a long term investment, so that I can teach privately or whatever other opportunities it might bring. I have a TEFL and a teaching credential. I need access to a language teaching library for some of the required reading. Has anybody any thoughts on the DELTA and where I could access a library in Seoul? I imagine there must be one here?
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duchessrachel
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November 11, 2010, 09:15:25 am »
Yes, I'm pretty sure you have to have your CELTA before you can get a DELTA. I got my CELTA last year. It was TOUGH, but very worth it. My teaching has definitely improved. I imagine DELTA would be even harder and more expensive.
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carlita
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November 11, 2010, 10:39:12 am »
I have a TEFL certificate and so that would suffice according to my research - thanks for that though....any other comments would be much appreciated. It is not cheap for sure, but I think in the long run, it would be worth it, and I figure I have the time to study also!!!
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axel pose
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November 11, 2010, 11:34:51 am »
If you want to take the DELTA then be aware how intensive and stressful it is. Yes, it's worth it; but it's expensive and difficult.
I've just finished my Pre-DELTA with International house an will be doing the DELTA with them next year in Rome or Seville. The reading list is huge and diverse and I had major problems accessing the material needed for the Pre-DELTA and I had to spend a lot of money getting books shipped out.
Lastly, everyone I know and have spoken to has recommended to me that before doing my DELTA to teach in as many different countries as possible and cover as many different aspects as possible. Korea is my third country and I still feel I need another year before I undertake the DELTA.
I can send you the pre-reading list from International House if you want. I've got a lot of respect for anyone doing or considering doing this course because it's a heavyweight certificate that is held in very high regard, especially in Europe and the Middle East.
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Freeto
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November 11, 2010, 11:52:36 am »
Would you mind posting more details about DELTA in Seoul, such as dates, cost etc.? I'm interested in it as well to build on what I learned from CELTA. You may already know that you can complete the non-practical parts of DELTA by distance courses.
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November 11, 2010, 01:50:49 pm »
thank you so much for your insight 'axel pose' - it is very much appreciated and helpful. Yes, I would love to see a pre-reading list - that would be great. I would imagine it would be very costly having books shipped, and that is why I was wondering if there was an English language teaching library in Seoul, that I could possibly go to. 'Freto' - yes, you can complete much of it online, which I would like to do. Check out
http://www.thedistancedelta.com/
for more info. The British Council in Seoul only deal with module one, that is you can take the exam at their center, either in December or June.
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axel pose
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November 12, 2010, 07:53:07 am »
Here's the reading list. Pay particular attention to the Batstone, Ellis, Willis and Thornbury books.
Appendix 1
Most sessions on the course have a bibliography or further suggested reading specific to that session. Below is an overview of books you may find useful during this and, should you be heading in this direction, Diploma level courses.
Post-CELTA revision
Learning Teaching, Jim Scrivener, Macmillan Heinemann, 2005
The Practice of English Language Teaching, Jeremy Harmer, Longman, 1983
Methodology and Approaches
Uncovering Grammar, S. Thornbury, Macmillan Heinemann, 2001
Language Teaching Methodology, D. Nunan, Prentice Hall, 1991
Techniques and Principles in Language Teaching, D. Larsen-Freeman, OUP, 2000
A Framework for Task-Based Learning, J. Willis, Longman, 1996
The Lexical Approach, M. Lewis, LTP, 1993
Implementing the Lexical Approach, M. Lewis, LTP, 1997
Foreign and Second Language Learning, W. Littlewood, CUP, 1984
The Language Teaching Matrix, J. Richards, CUP, 1990
How Languages are Learned, P. Lightbown and N. Spada, OUP, 1999
Inside Teaching, T. Bowen and J. Marks, Heinemann, 1994
Approaches and Methods in Language Teaching, J. Richards and T. Rogers, CUP, 1983
Grammar
About Language, S. Thornbury, CUP, 1997
Grammar for English Language Teachers, M. Parrott, CUP, 2000
Grammar, R. Batstone, OUP, 1994
The English Verb, Michael Lewis, LTP, 1986
Practical English Usage, M. Swan, OUP, 1995
How English Works, M. Swan and C. Water, OUP, 1997
How to Teach Grammar, S. Thornbury, Longman, 1999
Lexis
Teaching Collocation, M. Lewis (ed), LTP, 2000
How to Teach Vocabulary, S. Thornbury, Longman, 2002
Working with Words, R. Gairns and S. Redman, CUP, 1986
Phonology
English Phonetics and Phonology, P. Roach, CUP, 1983
Teaching English Pronunciation, Joanne Kenworthy, Longman 1987
Sound Foundations, A. Underhill, Heinemann, 1994
Discourse
Beyond the Sentence, S. Thornbury, Macmillan, 2005
Discourse Analysis for Language Teachers, M. McCarthy, CUP, 1993
Listening
Listening, A. Anderson and T. Lynch, OUP, 1988
Listening, G. White, OUP, 1998
Reading
Teaching Reading Skills in a Foreign Language, C. Nuttall, Heinemann, 1996
Developing Reading Skills, F. Grellet, CUP, 1981
Speaking
Speaking, M. Bygate, 1987, OUP
Teaching the Spoken Language, G. Brown and G. Yule, CUP, 1983
Writing
Writing, T. Hedge, OUP, 1988
Process Writing, R. White and V. Arndt, Longman, 1991
Testing
Testing for Language Teachers, A. Hughes, CUP, 1989
Course Design
Syllabus Design, D. Nunan, OUP, 1988
Teachers as Course Developers, K. Graves (ed), CUP, 1996
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carlita
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November 12, 2010, 04:00:13 pm »
thanks so much for this reading list. It is certainly a very long one! Were you directed to read certain parts of each book, surely not all of them?
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axel pose
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November 15, 2010, 07:35:00 am »
Definitely look at anything by Ellis, Thornbury, Roach, Nunan, Lewis, Harmer or Willis. Try looking at anything that contains research on TBT and Guided discovery. The British Council also has a wealth of info on their website.
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November 16, 2010, 11:59:07 am »
Hey Axel,
How long is the IH DELTA course, and how much? Does it cover all modules? I've done CELTA so I have a vague idea how intense DELTA could be. If I were to do it I'd rather spread it out by doing parts by distance. I'm doing my MA right now so I'm not sure if my pocketbook can handle another big wallop ???
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November 16, 2010, 12:05:58 pm »
I don't know how long the online modules take. The residential course for International House is 3 months long and costs around 2500-3000 euros depending on where you take it. They usually have accommodation which is extra as well.
I think the Online modules would cost around 700 -1000 pounds each. It's Module 2 which involves the practical aspect and that can be done at any DELTA training centre.
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axel pose
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November 16, 2010, 12:11:40 pm »
Here's the info for IH London or you could visit
www.ihworld.com
http://www.ihlondon.com/delta-24/
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bern
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November 16, 2010, 02:09:35 pm »
No offense but TEFL and DELTA are worlds apart. TEFL is a great starting point but the courses vary in quality and content. CELTA teaches you a very specific and effective style of teaching and planning lessons, as a continuation of this the DELTA will expect you to be delivering lessons and submitting plans in that specific style and to that standard from the moment you start.
I recommend doing your CELTA first, it's stressful but worth every penny. Then spend 2 years perfecting your CELTA teaching and then think about DELTA.
Hope this helps.
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vitamin-d
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January 05, 2011, 08:01:24 am »
Hey all,
I'll be taking a CELTA course in Ecuador this summer and was wondering: do you have any advice?
Is it really as difficult as it's made out to be?
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January 05, 2011, 08:30:42 am »
Hey Vitamin,
I did a CELTA this summer in London. Its not hard as such, but it is a lot of work, especially the first week or so. But as long as you do the work its pretty hard to fail as far as i can tell.
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January 05, 2011, 08:41:50 am »
Hi,
This is a really dumb question, so please excuse me... but, i have been thinking of doing the CELTA and was wondering how useful it is... as in, is it worth it, what does it give you? Any advice would be much appreciated :)
Thanks
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January 05, 2011, 08:46:26 am »
Thanks Oboe - would you recommend any books before taking the course?
@MissB, as far as I know it really depends on how you use it.
I'm taking the course not because it's immediately necessary to further my career, but because I'm hoping it will make me a better teacher of adults. However, I do know that University language departments in England will not even browse you CV if it is devoid of a CELTA, Trinity, or something equally similar.
Also, it will highly improve your chances of finding a job in Europe and South America, and prepare you for an MA TESL or the further diploma, DELTA.
However, I'm speaking from a lack of experience, so if I'm wrong do correct me.
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January 05, 2011, 08:54:29 am »
Thank you so much... i have heard it was really useful. I have to decide whether to take a PGCE place or do a CELTA first, so it isn't something i want to take without thinking it through.
Are you taking yours here in Korea? I heard that Thailand is cheaper to take CELTA in... not sure about this though. Thank you for your advice :)
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January 05, 2011, 09:15:25 am »
I'll be taking a CELTA in SEAsia. I thought it was the cheapest at $1500 in Vietnam. vitamin, how much are you going to pay? Maybe cost of living would be lower in Ecuador.
I know it's not terribly useful in Korea, but if you want to teach in Europe or possibly in Universities elsewhere then it should be very important.
Oboe, if you could give us some more information about your experiences I'd be really grateful.
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January 05, 2011, 09:27:24 am »
First hand experiences would definitely be most useful: what to do and what not to do.
I've heard it's best to pander a little to the trainers - would you agree?
The CELTA in Ecuador is a little more expensive, but I'll be in the area anyway.
The course is 5 weeks, rather than 4; is situated on a private beach/eco resort, and the $2250 cost covers the course plus five weeks of accommodation (in private cabañas :D) and all food.
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